Tuesday, 23 July 2013

Let's Talk...Atheism, and the possible existence of God


I've heard a lot of falsehoods and fallacies lately from religious people (termed "theists" by us atheists) about what atheists believe. They have said, conflictingly I might add, that we:

*Don't have any morals

*Do not believe in anything

*Worship Satan

*Believe that a God does not exist




It's interesting to be told what you believe by someone who doesn't know anything about you, trust me. But all these things are untrue (1). Let me address them one-by-one.

*Atheists DO have morals

When you are free of religious dogma, it's easier for you see the world the way it really is, and the best behaviours to adopt to make it a better place. That's why there are so few atheists in prison (a couple of sources I looked at put the rate at between 0.2 – 0.5% of the total prison population, way below the rate in the population), and we are not all being convicted of theft, rape and murder every 5 minutes.

*Atheists believe in lots of things

Otherwise, they would be nihilists. Generally, atheists believe in the people around them. Humanism and philosophy are good starting points.

*Atheists do not worship Satan

You can't worship something you don't believe in. Accepting Satan requires also accepting God. We reject God- we're atheists.

* (1) Atheists do not necessarily believe that a God does not exist

Man, here we go.

The position of believing that a God does not exist is one FORM of atheism. It is called STRONG atheism or anti-theism. I call it that to distinguish it from the normal atheism. There are also other behaviours commonly associated with anti-theism, such as bold opposition to organised religion in any form, and campaigning, debating and arguing for de-conversion.

However, this strong position is not required to be an atheist. The minimum position, and the most common, is WEAK atheism: The rejection of the claim that a God exists.

I can categorically assure you that these positions are quite distinct:

*I do not believe that a God exists. (Position A - weak atheism)

*I believe that no God exists. (position B - anti-theism)

These positions, and a third (*I believe that a God exists - theism) are all positions on the belief scale. Notice no talk of Agnosticism here. Agnosticism is very annoying to atheists and much misused by others. The knowledge scale deals with Gnosticism/Agnosticism. In reality, everyone is Agnostic because no-one really knows if a God exists. They may claim to know, but we can never be 100% sure without evidence. Agnosticism is annoying because it doesn't tell us what someone believes. Whilst Position A says nothing about whether you know a God exists. Hence most atheists are Agnostic Atheists (position A + agnosticism), to define both their belief and claimed knowledge about God's existence.

I hope you can see the difference between positions A and B. There are 2 good analogies I've heard which demonstrate the precise situation very well and clearly show the difference.

Coins in a jar

There is a large jar containing many coins. You are trying to determine if the number of coins in the jar is odd or even. You can look at it but not open it, weigh it or count the coins etc. The assertion is made to you that the number of coins in the jar is even. Do you accept this proposition?

The most sensible answer is no. This means that you do not necessarily think that the number of coins is odd, but rather that you are not sure that it is even. By saying no, you are not saying “I think there are an odd number of coins”. That would have been accepting the proposition that the number of coins is odd. In terms of logic, there are 2 possibilities: either the number of coins is even, or it is odd. However we are only dealing with ONE of these possibilities at a time when we are answering an assertion. Answering in the negative to a positive assertion that there is an even number of coins is not a belief in itself- rather, saying “I reject that assertion” - hedging our bets, getting an opportunity for more time to find another way of ascertaining the true answer.

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The situation is analogous to the existence of God. Here God existing is equivalent to an even number of coins, and God not existing is like an odd number of coins. Either God exists, or it doesn't. But we only deal with one positive assertion at a time. Answering in the negative to a positive assertion that there is a God is not a belief in itself- rather, saying “I reject that assertion” - hedging our bets, getting an opportunity for more time to find another way of ascertaining the true answer. This is atheism position A.

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The Courtroom Trial

A defendant is on trial, charged with murder. You are on the jury and must return a verdict on the assertion of the defendant's guilt.

Here we have 2 possible responses, guilty or not guilty. These are two logical negations of each other. Again, the real-life situation is that either the defendant is guilty, or innocent, but again, in judging the outcome, we only look at one of those possibilities with our two logical negations – being guilty or not guilty is the one we examine.

Let's say that the prosecution do not make a convincing enough case. There is some evidence, but the evidence that there is, is circumstantial and you feel that it's not enough to convict the defendant. You would then logically vote to return a verdict of Not Guilty. Let us look carefully at the ramifications of this decision.

Does the Not Guilty verdict you have delivered as a juror, mean that you think that the defendant is innocent? No, not necessarily. You may be fairly convinced that he is in fact guilty, for other reasons that can't be admissible for instance, however, on the evidence presented, there was sufficient doubt over the guilt to return a not guilty verdict.

But surely if you think the defendant not guilty you must think there is a greater chance of him being innocent? Does the Not Guilty verdict you have delivered as a juror, mean that you you as a juror have any responsibility to comment on the likelihood or probability that the defendant is innocent? Not necessarily, and no. You have judged that there is 95% (or the preponderance of evidence or the agreed yardstick) chance that the defendant is not guilty. As a juror you have no responsibility to determine the subsequent probability of guilt, nor innocence. (The latter is a different, theoretical question, requiring a re-trial with the options of “innocent” vs. “not innocent” for the jury to return). It is a “past the post” system for evidence of guilt. There is either enough evidence to convict, or there isn't.

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The analogy: God is on trial, charged with existing in the Universe. You are on the jury and must return a verdict on the assertion of God's existence.

Here we have 2 possible responses, guilty or not guilty. These are two logical negations of each other. Again, the real-life situation is that either God exists or it does not exist, but again, in judging the outcome, we only look at one of those possibilities with our two logical negations – being guilty of existing or not guilty of existing is the one we examine.

Let's say that the theists do not make a convincing enough case. There is some bible/Koran evidence, but the evidence that there is, is circumstantial and you feel that it's not enough to prove that God exists. You would then logically vote to return a verdict of Not Guilty. Let us look carefully at the ramifications of this decision.

Does the Not Guilty Of Existing verdict you have delivered as a juror, mean that you think that God is innocent of existing (i.e. Does not exist)? No, not necessarily. You may be of the position that God may exist, for other reasons, however, on the evidence presented, there was sufficient doubt over his existing to return a not guilty verdict.

But surely if you think God not guilty of existing you must think there is a greater chance of him not existing? Does the Not Guilty verdict you have delivered as a juror, mean that you you as a juror have any responsibility to comment on the likelihood or probability that God exists? Not necessarily, and no. You have judged that there is 95% (or the preponderance of evidence or the agreed yardstick) chance that God is not guilty of existing. As a juror you have no responsibility to determine the subsequent probability of God existing, or not existing. (The latter is a different, theoretical question, requiring a re-trial with the options of “God is innocent of exisitng” vs. “God is not innocent of existing” for the jury to return). It is a “past the post” system for evidence of guilt. There is either enough evidence for you to believe God exists, or there isn't.

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In many ways, this Trial is the better example for atheism. Because for us agnostic weak atheists of position A, there is not enough evidence for us to believe that God exists. Therefore we do not believe that god exists.

It's as simple as that. Phew!

Now, after all that I hope you understand the difference between:

*Not believing that God exists

and

*Believing that God does not exist

If you don't, then by definition you think that NOT GUILTY means *exactly* the same thing as INNOCENT.

That's just wrong. If you still don't understand, I may give up hope. It's as simple as that.

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